tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post5452596120616447760..comments2013-11-28T17:20:36.772-08:00Comments on CLASSICAL LIBERALS: THE BLOG: A Few Words on Ludwig Von Mises' "Liberalism"classicliberalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08774368616512375256noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-14013836986136812402013-11-28T17:20:36.772-08:002013-11-28T17:20:36.772-08:00"I read Noam Chomsky a lot and he describes h..."I read Noam Chomsky a lot and he describes himself as a classical liberal...."<br /><br />Another ignorant comment. Chomsky describes and has always described himself as a left anarchist. He has NEVER described himself as a classical liberal. What are you smoking? Craig J. Boltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147500914677148689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-76455621544260438322013-11-28T17:17:37.909-08:002013-11-28T17:17:37.909-08:00"The ugly truth about Mises is that, for all ..."The ugly truth about Mises is that, for all his wind, his work amounts to an intellectual vacuum. It could be safely ignored in serious intellectual circles in Mises' lifetime, as, indeed, it largely was, and, left to stand on its own merits, would have been completely forgotten decades ago, as, indeed, it largely was, outside of the "Libertarian" community and its forerunners. His continuing popularity among "Libertarians" rests solely on the fact that he peddled the nonsense they want to hear; a crank speaking, down through the ages, to his descendants."<br /><br />Interesting evaluation. The problem is, of course, that Mises is well known for his formulation of the "socialist calculation" argument - an argument which he is generally acknowledged to have won after 29 years of exchanges with the leading academic socialists of the period. <br /><br />He was also the first named "Distinguished Fellow" of the American Economic Association. <br /><br />Interesting record for an intellectually vacuous windbag unknown outside of libertarian cult circls. <br /><br />Incidentally, what are your credentials in Economics? (I bet you don't have any or you wouldn't author such ridiculous libel.)<br />tCraig J. Boltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14147500914677148689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-12008142412325258762012-12-15T00:00:57.350-08:002012-12-15T00:00:57.350-08:00Man what a crappy rant.
"While caution about...Man what a crappy rant.<br /><br />"While caution about the invocation of science in such a work is advisable, in general, it is particularly advisable when the invocation comes from Mises and the "Austrian school" cult to which he belonged.<br /><br />Mises and the other "Austrian school" cultists don't believe in science."<br /><br />Yes. We can only define science as the modern day empiricsts. All other attempts most be labeled "cultists".<br /><br />I think this reflects you is the real "cultist" ie. Mordanicus.<br /><br />"That it has "degraded" in the U.S. is a judgment I don't share." <br /><br />It has, it does not in anyway mean liberal anymore.<br /><br />This is reflected in that in Europe, "american liberals" are called socialists and classical liberals are called....liberals.<br /><br />"Mises, whom you're trying to defend, here, discouraged his followers from studying the history of liberalism. He wanted them, instead, to embrace what he"<br /><br />This is an insane characterization. Mises frequently emphasized the importance of learning history of thought. YOu obviously are somekind of prejudiced bastard.Hard-Money Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14997720021798091375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-40321147442909051362012-08-09T12:21:06.929-07:002012-08-09T12:21:06.929-07:00Es ist ironisch that you would sneer at Mises for ...Es ist ironisch that you would sneer at Mises for having been ein falscher Freund des Liberalismus, for in 1927 Mises desired a <i>Weltüberstaat</i>. So, are poseurs like leftwing illiberals the only proper advocates for a world superstate?<br /><br />Finden Sie Mises' remarks about <i>Weltüberstaat</i> on pages 130-132 of <i>Liberalismus</i>.Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-27261079524291648602010-01-28T12:03:01.993-08:002010-01-28T12:03:01.993-08:00I haven't read Mises, but I have read some Aus...I haven't read Mises, but I have read some Austrian School theory, specifically:<br /><br />Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlitt<br />(online http://jim.com/econ/)<br /><br />Man, Economy, and State by Murray N. Rothbard<br /><br />And I'm not sure why you disparage it by calling it a 'cult'. It isn't scientific, but only because it's members contend scientific testing of whole economies is impossible, and the results of tests of lab-simulated economies are unapplicable.<br /><br />In place of experimental tests, Austrian economists try to design a system from first principles -- How do people satisfy their desires? Which desires do they satisfy first? What structures do they impose in this quest?<br /><br />I've generally found the Austrian School of economics to be logical, accessible, interesting and sensible.<br /><br />What would you have me read as an example of an uncultish theory of economics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-12663823753602999662010-01-19T15:24:43.239-08:002010-01-19T15:24:43.239-08:00Liberalism can never save humanity like capitalism...Liberalism can never save humanity like capitalism can. That is not to say liberalism can't accomplish anything. After all, slaves built the pyramids. However, no one would argue slavery is a superior system based on such accomplishments.Fazshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145320065555592999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-66680408456495748962009-08-19T14:28:49.627-07:002009-08-19T14:28:49.627-07:00Wowwwww thank youu soo much this is what got my he...Wowwwww thank youu soo much this is what got my head spinning I read Noam Chomsky a lot and he describes himself as a classical liberal and he would absolutely despise mises and the rest. The meaning has been perverted so badly such that it means the opposite of what it always meant. You are doing a great favor and service by running the site thanks a lot and let classical liberalism save humanity. I would also recommend you to include John Dewey and Bertrand Russell. On a side note do you know what socialism means? Bye have a great day ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-59531850743528727942009-08-18T06:56:49.923-07:002009-08-18T06:56:49.923-07:00Very interesting post. It's also telling that...Very interesting post. It's also telling that your critic just uses assertion and insults, but doesn't really address any points. Anonymous is defending the faith from a 'blasphemer' -- rational thought need not be used! I'm going to try to read through more of this blog in the next week or so, very interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-10288015812275136062009-07-01T19:05:01.608-07:002009-07-01T19:05:01.608-07:00"You either have either never read Mises work..."You either have either never read Mises works or read them with the objective of finding phrases which support your distorted ideas of what he said and meant."<br /><br />I'm heartened by the fact that, while you would have certainly pointed out any such distortions had you found any, you failed to do so.<br /><br />"Try reading Hayek's 'Constitution of Liberty' with his addenda 'Why I am Not a Conservative' and you'll get an idea of what Mises outlined."<br /><br />Or you could just--gasp--read Mises!<br /><br />"You're doing the simplistic superficial conflation and hence confusion of European liberalism v. what contemporary U.S. liberalism has degraded into."<br /><br />Liberalism has evolved as the world has evolved, sometimes in different ways in different places. That it has "degraded" in the U.S. is a judgment I don't share. Mises, whom you're trying to defend, here, discouraged his followers from studying the history of liberalism. He wanted them, instead, to embrace what he, himself, was advancing, and to call <i>that</i> "liberalism." You should, perhaps, ask yourself why.<br /><br />--j. of j. & Jennclassicliberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08774368616512375256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-25353961267884199822009-06-29T05:39:55.222-07:002009-06-29T05:39:55.222-07:00Try reading Hayek's "Constitution of Libe...Try reading Hayek's "Constitution of Liberty" with his addenda "Why I am Not a Conservative" and you'll get an idea of what Mises outlined. You're doing the simplistic superficial conflation and hence confusion of European liberalism v. what contemporary U.S. liberalism has degraded into.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1414498213215984116.post-28886746358105707132009-06-28T10:25:32.245-07:002009-06-28T10:25:32.245-07:00What totally ignorant blather! You either have ei...What totally ignorant blather! You either have either never read Mises works or read them with the objective of finding phrases which support your distorted ideas of what he said and meant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com